(Letter) The people´s republic of capitalism
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Ένας από τους περίεργους χαρακτήρες Kopple που περνά από συνέντευξη επανειλημμένα είναι καλλιτεχνικός φωτογράφος μόδας, ο οποίος μιλά αρκετά καλό αγγλικό και πηγαίνει από το όνομα Alan. Ο νεαρός άνδρας, που κοιτάζει για να είναι στα μέσα τηςδεκαετιών του '20, είναι προφανώς πολύ ταλαντούχος στην τέχνη του, αλλά είναι είτε πολιτικά naïve είτε είναι 装糊涂 - παιχνίδι άλαλο. Εδώ είναι ένας διασκεδάζοντας διάλογος μεταξύ των δύο:
TED Kopple: Η ερώτησή μου είναι, εάν οι άνθρωποι θέλουν να συγκεντρωθούν, πέστε στην επαρχία, και διαμαρτύρεται τη δωροδοκία, και η αστυνομία θα έρθει, και χωρίζει την επίδειξη, και δεν θα την επιτρέψουν…
Alan: (αθώα) OH πραγματικά;
TED Kopple: Λέτε `OH πραγματικά,» δεν ξέρετε αυτού;
Alan: Δεν ξέρω αυτόν. Δεν έχω δει ποτέ ότι…
TED Kopple: Ξέρω. Ξέρω ότι δεν το έχετε δει. Ξέρετε γιατί δεν το έχετε δει;
Alan: Γιατί;
TED Kopple: Επειδή η τηλεόραση δεν μπορεί να τον εκθέσει, επειδή η εφημερίδα δεν μπορεί να τον εκθέσει, επειδή καθεμία που είναι εκεί, εάν πάρουν τη φωτογραφία, θα συλληφθούν. Γίαυτό δεν ξέρετε για το.
Alan: Εντάξει.
TED Kopple: Δεν θέλω να σας πάρω στο πρόβλημα, αλλά δεν φαίνεστε να φροντίζετε για το.
Alan: Ναι.
TED Kopple: Όχι;
Alan: Όχι πολύ προσοχή για εκείνο το μέρος, όχι.
TED Kopple: Επειδή;
Alan: Πρέπει να υπάρξει ένας λόγος για την κυβέρνηση να κάνει αυτή. Και, πιστεύω πραγματικά στην κινεζική κυβέρνηση. Επειδή μπορούμε να δούμε ότι άνθρωποι που ζουν εδώ μια καλύτερη ζωή από πριν. Και δεν σκέφτομαι τους ανθρώπους που έγραψαν κάτι στην οδό ή η συνεδρίαση στην οδό είναι έξυπνη. Δεν σκέφτομαι που είμαι ο καλύτερος τρόπος να γίνει αυτός.
Ποιες είναι οι απόψεις σας;
Δεν υπάρχει αυτήν την περίοδο κανένα σχόλιο που τονίζεται.
Αυτή η θέση υποβλήθηκε από το deltaeco.
July 16th, 2008 at 10:11 pm
First, the dialogue is indeed funny. Second, I think Alan gave a reasonable answer at the end.
July 17th, 2008 at 5:38 am
Let me chime in on this too.
I think Alan is also right. Although there are many cases of local corruption, there are also many cases of greedy/uneducated rural peasants trying to get a better deal. You can’t look at the fact there was a government crack-down and conclude the government was wrong.
There is a case from I believe Shandong province that has been circling various Chinese internet websites. It shows a brutal, forced demolition of a home from May of this year. The video was clearly produced by the civilian’s families, to draw attention to what they call an illegal seizure of private property. It was pretty damn convincing.
But then you read into the legal documents into the case, and you find out the family was given a replacement home several years ago. But after moving in, they insisted the new home has quality issues, and moved back into the old home. Well, I don’t see how in any legal society that’s an option.
If the new home has quality issues, it must be dealt with, including a lawsuit against the village if necessary. But if “title” on your old home has already been transferred to the county government (with your approval)… then do you have the legal or moral right to be a “nail-house” resident?
I don’t really know the truth of that case, of course. Only a judge looking into all of the legal details can possibly render judgment. But the point is, if you don’t investigate these details, you simply don’t have the right to make a broad judgment of who’s at fault.
July 17th, 2008 at 1:18 pm
@netizen
Does not sound reasonable to me.
@buxi
“Well, I don’t see how in any legal society that’s an option.”
Yes there are. If the house provided does not comply with what was promised.
Where they forced to make the deal? Where they duped? Had they any other option?
And why have to be the eviction brutal?
July 17th, 2008 at 4:30 pm
@deltaecho,
You don’t know the answers to those questions, and neither do I. But it takes extreme cynicism bordering on willful ignorance to insist that they must have been forced, duped, or had no other options.
I don’t know how evictions in Portugal are conducted, but in the United States, if you resist the police officer’s instructions, you will be arrested and detained.
July 18th, 2008 at 6:18 am
Those comments are quite striking, and I think they demonstrate a very fundamental difference in the way that Americans (and other Westerners) and Chinese people see their relationships to governments.
This was told to me by a Professor at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences, and it has stuck with me for a long time.
In America, the government is bad and the people are good. Trust the people.
In China, the government is good and the people are bad. Trust the government.
My leanings? I personally tend to believe more in the first one. But that needs to be prefaced by a great many things.
July 18th, 2008 at 7:09 am
Yeah, I sort of think Alan’s responses were quite honest. However, I haven’t seen the the full documetary yet. Sometimes the body language and atmosphere of the conversation might make a difference. Just by reading, I am guessing that either Alan isn’t interested personally in such conversation or he is but really doesn’t have that much to say or care enough to articulate the comments. It’s still straight to the point though.
btw, I am different from the Daniel above.