Comments on: “Running Fan”: The freedom to be selfish

By: Steve

Steve — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 20:00:48 +0000

@ dan #36: Thanks dan, appreciate it. He was a retired NYC firefighter who was called that morning and asked to help out because they were so shorthanded. All the retired guys came in to help and most were at ground zero that day. Many people didn’t realize all these old guys were there.

By: Zepplin

Zepplin — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 03:47:38 +0000

At risk of generalization, I must say that Fan’s lamentation at the heavens, fate, and circumstances for his misfortune is decidedly Chinese rather than American. Maybe it’s due to that 17 years of pathetic education.

By: dan

dan — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:40:56 +0000

Steve, my salute to your dad’s cousin.

By: Steve

Steve — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 15:51:13 +0000

@ dan & R4K: Thanks. That incident happened a little too close to home. My brother in law had an office in the Twin Towers but fortunately wasn’t in it that morning so I guess I look at comments too literally. My dad’s cousin was the firefighter in that photo taken in front of St. Patrick’s Cathedral that was printed all over the world.

By: dan

dan — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 15:34:37 +0000

Steve. Raventhorn4000 answered it. I thought it was obvious…:)

By: raventhorn4000

raventhorn4000 — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 21:37:40 +0000

No, not the same person. It was just an obvious implication from Dan’s statement. Steve.

By: Steve

Steve — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 21:34:40 +0000

Asked dan a question and got a reply from raventhorn4000. dan and raventhorn4000 are one and the same person???

By: raventhorn4000

raventhorn4000 — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 21:24:48 +0000

… That such a “scurrying Bao” would run away from the Twin Towers and his duty as a firefighter.

By: Steve

Steve — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 21:08:41 +0000

@ dan: My dad’s cousin was a fire fighter called in to NYC on the morning of 9/11/2001. What’s your point?

By: dan

dan — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 20:33:23 +0000

“I have been engulfed in sadness that I was not born in a country like the United States, a country which respects freedom, democracy, and human rights!…’
OMG! if he has been born in the US and (God forbid) a fire fighter in NYC on the morning of 9/11/2001…

By: raventhorn4000

raventhorn4000 — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 20:24:22 +0000

I pity that man. He curses his own birth and bloodline.

My parents lived through the Great Famine, and the Cultural Revolution, and they have always been proud of their Chinese heritage and China.

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A man who curse his own birth, thinks he is too good for his own life, is a prideful sinner, the worst kind of sinner before God.

Was it not Lucifer himself who cursed God for making him a servant of God?

“Rather to rule in Hell than to serve in Heaven.”

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I’m not Christian, but I believe there is a purpose for me in my place in the world. I do not question why I was born in China, as a Chinese, instead of born somewhere else, being richer, or something better.

One who questions God and Heaven’s purpose for one’s place, has only Pride, no soul.

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Thu, 14 May 2009 00:15:28 +0000

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By: Buxi

Buxi — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 16:02:08 +0000

By the way, Lan Lan, sorry for not following through with my promise on a blog post on this topic. I really do want to. Remind me again in a few days, there are just so many other hot topics at the moment…

By: Buxi

Buxi — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 16:01:45 +0000

@Lan Lan,

I have to say, I personally was disturbed by the comments by one of the students (on the Tianya thread) that they absolutely would not return to China to develop. I think that’s certainly their right, especially since I myself am selfishly enjoying my high-paying career in the United States.

But at least, I can say that is not what I want… if the income gap in my career was not so dramatic between the United States and China, I personally would be back in China tomorrow, because I really do think I have something to contribute. (Am I a 真小人 for admitting that money keeps me in the US?)

The tone of the students in that post is that… they simply do not want to return to China to develop, a strong suggestion that China is not worthy of their time, that China is hopeless. I think that’s exactly the kind of very selfish, very arrogant attitude that Fan Meizhong has demonstrated, and why I personally so dislike his words. I don’t care about Fan’s actions, I really dislike his words. (And this is why I point out the schools these students attend in the US are second-tier at best; I think they’ll be in for a rude awakening when they arrive in the US.)

If that’s the kind of education the preppy rich schools are giving out… how will that affect China’s future? What if Sun Zhongshan had been like Fan Meizhong?

@girl,

Exactly. Society exists because human beings figured out tens of thousands of years ago that we need to cooperate to live together. Democracy or not, if Fan Meizhong wants to live amongst other human beings, then he will need to respect society’s rules. If he can not, then he should find a different society to live in.

By: girl

girl — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 14:34:47 +0000

we cannot say whether he is right or wrong. however, it is unacceptable in society. like he said, democracy. likewise we have choice whether we deem him wrong or right. in this case, we say he’s wrong so he just have to live with that because democracy prevails and he has no right to criticise society’s decision.