Spectular8 you said”We should keep an eye on Bush in China how he is going to be treated and report back to Jana.”

I ask you whose is WE?

The Ccp has alrady gone ape ove r Mr Bushs whitehouse lunch and Mr Bush has said he will continue to bug the ccp them over human rights absues including Falun Gong….

BTW Mr Li Hongzhi would not go….. He is not interested in politics at all…

but sending their brothers, sisters, mothers and fathers, sons and daughters to hell.

>>> We can take a look at Taiwan, which shares the same heritage as mainland China. In Taiwan, Falun Gong benefits society, and society in turn supports Falun Gong. Falun Gong has not been involved in any political dispute. <<<

How much do you know about Black Gang infiltrated Kuomingtang? How much do you know about money laundering activities under The Democratic Progressive Party? Have you seen the Taiwan politicians having fist fight during the congressional meeting? Don’t tell me you don’t see that news in the western news. Don’t make biased news when you should be independent news reporter as your Epochtimes newspaper claimed to be. Just because Taiwan allow Falun Gone to be practiced freely, does it means they are supporting your spiritual belief? Not so. There are many Taiwanese do not want to see your group invading their lands either. Many politicians are using your group as political pawn and supporting you.

Jana – You’ve done one service for me. You have firmly entrenched in my mind that FLG is of the same sort of intellectual pithing as say Scientology. Thank you.

On the whole, this thread represents either the best argument for the 18+ rule or the best argument against such a rule. For – because no child should be polluted by such stuff or stuff like this. Against – because a child’s best defense against myths and lies is knowledge and critical thinking.

So, admin, please. If this thread can be closed or its comments removed from the feed on the right hand side (currently several metres above this comment window), I would appreciate it done.

>>> Even President Bush who says he will go to the games invited all the disidents to the white house yesterday and this was done to snub the Ccp whilea t teh same time out them on notice

You know what? Bush did not invite Falun Gone leader Li Hongzhi? Why? Bush doesn’t even think he is that much important? Also, did you notice Harry Wu? If he is collaborating with China as alleged by our friend Jana, why would Bush had invited him?

I want to see how China is going to welcome Bush during Olympics. If China has “forbearance”, they will not let a few others spoil the Olympic games and move on but if they acted with the same vengeance as Falun Gone, then they can make Bush looks bad during the Olympic games. We should keep an eye on Bush in China how he is going to be treated and report back to Jana.

This is who we are see article below…… i saw a documentry last night on the Ming Dynasty and the Emperor had take power over the last emperor with violence. His aim was build the forbidden city and he had to take his own life in the end like a coward because, the people were rising up becasue there was no money left for food the people were starving and peasants were worked to death. IN short the emperor was a bad person for murdering the previous ruler and his greed to be remembered incurred the wrath of the Gods in the heavens. After 20 years of famine, disease and disaster the chinese populace rose up and demanded the self imposed emperor take his life. IN those days when disaster hit ,the Chinese and all races believed it was because of humankinds wrong doing.
Usually the rules not looking after thier people well andputting themsleves first.
The same it is with today. Disasters have hit the Chinese people over. and the heavens are telling the chinese people to turn their backs on the Ccp. WE dont wish for any disasters for the Chinese people so we urge them to quit the Ccp. Just because we have computers and so called science does not mean the Gods do not exist anymore.

China has had 10 plagues in this year alone

NO where else has had that many. The writing is on the wall. Learn from your past mistakes your past culture and look to your wonderful future. Turn you back on the Ccp and know that Falun Dafa is good.This is your only hope.

Despite Nine Years of Persecution, Falun Gong Persists with Peaceful and Levelheaded Response

By Fei Ming

(Clearwisdom.net) We read new stories about the persecution each day on Minghui/Clearwisdom. The stories are sent by practitioners living in mainland China, despite government Internet censorship. There are several stories about Falun Gong practitioners being brutally tortured in China almost every day. This has continued unabated since the Chinese Communist Party began its official persecution of Falun Gong in July 1999.

Over the last nine years, however, there has not been a single case of Falun Gong practitioners responding violently; none have sought vengeance against CCP officials. This fact alone speaks for the peaceful, levelheaded, and non-violent nature of Falun Gong practitioners. Practitioners will continue to respond in this fashion until the persecution completely ends, just as they have for the last nine years.

There have been two recent cases that shook the Chinese community. One was a riot in Weng’An; the other was the murder of a Shanghai policeman by a young man from Beijing. There have been many cheers and much support of the two incidents on Internet forums. As the CCP extends its persecution from Falun Gong to other members of the public, there will be more and more violence in China, some of which may even destroy the regime. All of this was caused by the CCP’s corruption, greed, and brutality.

In contrast to the two incidents mentioned above, Falun Gong practitioners’ resistance is completely non-violent. This is because everything a practitioner does is guided by the principle of Truthfulness-Compassion-Forbearance. When clarifying the facts, practitioners are merely practicing their right to free speech, as granted by the Constitution. They even clarify the facts to the perpetrators of the persecution. They also encourage the public to withdraw from the CCP and its subordinate organizations. As cultivators, they are saving sentient beings. As citizens, they are walking the most peaceful path to rid China of tyranny.

Of course, Falun Gong has no desire for political power. We can take a look at Taiwan, which shares the same heritage as mainland China. In Taiwan, Falun Gong benefits society, and society in turn supports Falun Gong. Falun Gong has not been involved in any political dispute. This type of peaceful existence of Falun Gong will happen in China, too, once the CCP is eliminated. In the last nine years, all of the issues related to Falun Gong can be attributed to the CCP’s irrational persecution. Falun Gong practitioners need to clarify the facts and resist the persecution precisely because the persecution exists. By peacefully guarding their rights, Falun Gong practitioners are also guarding the rights of all Chinese people. All patriotic Chinese people should stand beside Falun Gong and work with the practitioners to end the nine-year persecution.

Thast is simply not true . The only organisation that has any problem with FAlun Gong are the illigitmate Ccp.

Even President Bush who says he will go to the games invited all the disidents to the white house yesterday and this was done to snub the Ccp whilea t teh same time out them on notice . These crimes against humanity will nort be hidden any longer,

NEW YORK TIMES
China Angered by U.S. Lobbying on Rights
By ANDREW JACOBS

BEIJING — In response to President Bush’s meeting with prominent Chinese dissidents at the White House, Beijing on Thursday sharply condemned Washington for interfering in China’s domestic affairs and accused American legislators of politicizing the Olympics.

Shortly after Mr. Bush held talks Tuesday with the five dissidents — Harry Wu, Wei Jingsheng, Rebiya Kadeer, Sasha Gong and Bob Fu — the U.S. House of Representatives passed a resolution urging China to honor its pledge to improve human rights before the Games, which begin Aug. 8. The resolution passed 419 to 1.

During a news conference Thursday, Liu Jianchao, a Foreign Ministry spokesman, described the House measure as “odious conduct” and said the United States should stop “making use of so-called religious and human rights” issues to score political points, Agence France-Presse reported.

The Chinese authorities also remained resolute about their decision to maintain a firewall on the Internet and limit access for journalists covering the Olympics. Senior officials with the International Olympic Committee, or IOC, have said they were stunned to learn Wednesday that Beijing’s longstanding pledge to provide foreign reporters with unfettered access would not be honored.

Kevan Gosper, a former Olympic athlete from Australia and the chief of the IOC press commission in Beijing, said he had been assured that visiting journalists would have no limitations on their Internet use during the Games. But he said Wednesday that other IOC officials, whom he did not identify, had agreed to let some Web sites be blocked. Olympic organizers say they are trying to convince the government to reconsider its decision to limit access.

In an interview Thursday, Sun Weide, a spokesman for the Beijing Olympic organizing committee, said reporters arriving in China in the coming week should not expect access to sites that discuss topics such as Tibet, Taiwanese independence or the Falun Gong, a banned religious group that China has deemed an “evil cult.” Such sites, he said, “contain information that is in breach of Chinese law.”

He also stressed that the number of banned sites were few — although he declined to provide a precise number — and he insisted that reporters would have no limitations in covering athletic events. Mr. Sun said the authorities would not monitor the personal e-mails of reporters at the Olympics’ main press center. “We always have been following international law on such matters,” he said.

Check this site out too, the Ccp days are numbered

A reporters guide to all the Chinese labour camps.
http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS253250+31-Jul-2008+PRN20080731

As we speak WE are sending this out to all media WORLDWIDE …

Guide Home | Tuanhe | Beijing Municipal Women’s | Qingdao | Qinhuangdao | Tilanqiao | Masanjia | Jianxin | The Essential Questions

by Clive Ansley
As spectators and reporters travel to China in August to attend the Olympic Games, they will witness the world’s top athletes compete. What they will not witness are the hundreds of thousands of Chinese people languishing in labor camps nearby, many detained for exercising the same fundamental rights we take for granted every day.

Some of those traveling to Beijing may have heard stories of these Chinese gulags, but where are they located? Who is detained there? And what goes on inside?

These are some of the questions this guide seeks to answer, drawing particular attention to the plight of adherents of the Falun Gong, peaceful religious believers who for nine years have suffered one of the largest, most brutal campaigns of persecution that the Chinese people have seen in decades.

Since the first allegations of harrowing torture methods and deaths in custody emerged in 1999 through to more recent evidence of organ harvesting from prisoners of conscience, CIPFG members have repeatedly requested permission to enter China and investigate claims of abuse. Yet, on an equal number of occasions, these requests have been denied.

And that is partially the importance of this guide—for it provides an opportunity for journalists traveling to China to take this rare opportunity of greater access to the country to conduct an investigation of their own.

At the same time, while we realize the possibility of reporters being able to enter these camps is slim, their ability to remember and give voice to innocent Falun Gong adherents and other civil rights defenders who suffer torture and death only miles from where athletes celebrate victory is not. For giving them a voice is not only our duty as responsible global citizens, it is also the true realization of the Olympic spirit.

–Clive Ansley, July 30, 2008

CLIVE ANSLEY is North American President of CIPFG. He is a lawyer and former Canadian professor of Chinese History and Law, Mr. Ansley practiced and taught law in China where he is Advising Professor at Shanghai’s Fudan University and was appointed Visiting Professor at Silicone Lake University in 2003. Mr. Ansley has litigated more than 300 cases in China. He is now China Country Monitor for Lawyers’ Rights Watch, Canada.

You guys are going to be really busy now .

Read the title of this blog to find out the unethical practice of Falun Gong.

Also, “The Wikipedia entry about Falun Gong is heavily biased…. Now, this article is guarded by a bunch of FG devotees who undo all attempts to introduce a more balanced view into the text.” Without balanced view, it’s PROPAGANDA! and unethical too.

Remember, CCP is just one of the many organizations who sees Falun Gong as a threat to society. Go to find it out for yourself. Beside black and which, there are millions other colors that may not go well with Falun Gong. You keep on alleging those who criticize Falun Gong as CCP spies is unethical too.

Google “falun bait and switch” to find out the deceptive practices of Falun Gong.

Oh, what happened to your Falun Gong friends? Are they supposed to help you here? Maybe not, because “……was not authorized to speak for the group”.

Unless you can shut down the mighty internet, it’s impossible to put a lid on Falun Gong’s dark side.

There are no unethical practices or deceptive practices in FAlun Gong we are open. The fact that US congress, the Eurpeon parliements, the United Kingdom , Canada, New Zealand and Australian Gov’ts have all passed resolutions and motions to call for an end to the persecution of Falun Gong in China shows clearly how mcuh the west suports Falun Gong You are simply once again spouting Ccp lies and propoganda to further you persecution against Falun Gong. At least have the balls to admit you guys.

To people commenting here: Don’t take it personally.

Peace.

As a Westerner, you have being doing very hard to defend the Eastern religion Falun Dafa. However, some of the unethical and deceptive practices will not be accepted nor tolerated in the west. Whether intentionally or been cheated, it’s not worth your time. Your local community will appreciate very much to have you on board to fight corruption, and big government spending.

As you mentioned “What will happen during and or after the Olympics? This affair is coming to a close very soon.” (#227). Wish for peace and pray that nobody gets hurt.

I couldn’t agree more with every bit of your comments #304. I like you other comments too. You’re great!

I am embarassed? Good joke. I have a good paying job, harmonious family, I am proud of what I do and thank you for your concern. You want to trace me where I work so you can harass me?

When you cannot debate, you start attacking personnel ethics like your Goners always do and always repeat the same over and over. You are absolutely confused. Stop learning all those garbage. It’s bad for your heart and your mind.

No1 wants to be an idiot to be happy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwVGjhNvnhQ